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# F7 Y6 O2 R1 {3 dmso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family: ; e& }( m8 k# b" {2 \Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">孝，如今还在于与父母交心、沟通，体谅父母的难处，分担父母的责任。/ s0 D# d4 a G' C1 f& R mso-font-kerning:0pt">——% u5 o* ~- I7 ~ G# Qfont-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">对，这是从情感上关心父母，是尽孝的重要内容。生，事之以礼。死，葬之以礼，祭之以礼。8 m- Y# A6 Q" n; l mso-font-kerning:0pt">—— x3 L8 X/ J* y: `font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; # s5 @+ E2 ~& ?8 Tmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">对父母的孝道，是义。如何尽孝，是礼。如何行礼，就是生而不违，去世行丧礼，祭祀行祭礼。《孝经》说：. @* Q" p' w tmso-font-kerning:0pt">“$ v; f! V5 }5 w0 n6 F font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; 4 f' I# e! }* I0 Xmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">礼者，敬而已矣。故敬其父，则子悦；敬其兄，则弟悦；敬其君，则臣悦；敬一人，而千万人悦。所敬者寡，而悦者众，此之谓要道也。* ?# l, u" K" y4 j6 N) W( hmso-font-kerning:0pt">”% V& P, d0 P- d, e1 Dfont-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; & z1 q: S3 V, P9 Ymso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">礼的内在依据是孝悌，而外在表现，就是一个' @" {5 f- \9 N' Z# v4 t) Z' V( e! D mso-font-kerning:0pt">“0 x" V5 V* c5 V$ {font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">敬* |% c `/ ^, l' p7 u mso-font-kerning:0pt">”9 o7 K0 M9 b* J0 U/ e font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">字。所以，如能尊敬他的父亲，那么其儿子就会喜悦；如能尊敬他的兄长，那么其弟弟就会喜悦；如能尊敬他的国君，那么其臣下就会喜悦。尊敬的是一个人，却能使千万人喜悦。所敬者虽然只是少数，而喜悦的人却有千千万万，这就是为什么把推行孝悌之道和礼乐教化称为3 W8 Q* R( S5 {% S0 J mso-font-kerning:0pt">“7 K" E( A8 Y k# {+ n9 J4 ?! T font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; 4 v& \/ u' @. b7 nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">要道( C( c5 ~2 ~5 B/ b4 B) A mso-font-kerning:0pt">”: p5 P+ k: M- { font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; * `2 ^% I/ O# s9 K1 bmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">的意义所在啊。$ b* b* h+ `: r7 Y* t' Y! `& W4 f mso-font-kerning:0pt">

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现在用法律手段规定子女要常回家看看，但是由于时间、金钱等各方面的原因，又有多少人是想回而不能回的呢，这个道德层面的问题上升到法律层面到底有什么意义，始终不大明白

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我这里显示也是一堆乱码，怎么回事

好好学习，天天向上{:soso_e195:}

贾老师讲的不错，学习了，谢谢

贾老师讲的不错，学习了，谢谢

我这里显示的是一堆乱码！！

不错，学习了，佩服佩服